*** Disruptor (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has joined channel #quake2 hey, dis win95 paint doesn't handle quake screenshos right hey disruptor yo thanks for saying "count me in" hey there np although thats not till this teusday :) What program can I use to view Pcx's correctly? thanks...can't wait to watch it. hellscrea, jasc.com paint shop pro brb someone log this. heh :) why? coz i'm going to suck you dry of info :) im on it i've never even heard of the manual hey disruptor slip - I am same SLIP: Im logging.... cool ok, I won't say anything then =) haha damnit! :) please * RitDELPHI pretends to turn off his log ok its off now * Keif 'll brb Disruptor, how do you think Quake 2 did at E3 compared to the other games? Q2 rocked the first person, 3D action shooter scene at E3 was battlespire at E3? cool yeah (everyone bows to Q2) are you giving us new screenshots soon? or an avi how about an AVI or two, please? :) dunno. I didn't get a chance to see much... Was too busy working the booth dis: what about the other games based on the quake engine? yes...please. disruptor - which games did you see that you felt were worth mention? disupter - alot of people say Prey and Half-Life were pretty good, what did you think? ack ok guys one at a time :) slowwwwwwwwwwwww dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn Prey seemed kinda slow, and I didn't see anything in there that Q2 can't do. I didn't get a chance to see half life, so I can't comment, although I did hear HL's skeletal animation system rocked Cool. denial Escher: IMO, Q2 was the best one there ;) what can you tell us about what Carmack was saying about sound Disruptor? what about Unreal Disruptor? =) but he admits that he didnt see HL :) I've heard alot of arguments about how unreal looked ritalin boy, he just answered your question :) Yes Disruptor, the ups of half life were the skeletal animations, death sequences, and the AI Dis: did you get a peek at jedi Knight, and if so, what did you think of it? I have to stick up for Prey and Sin Didn't see Jedi Knight =( dis: :) um.. he did? wherE? me neither, they were too damn stuck up on who they would let in there Ritalin: There were some good and bad things about Unreal. I'd prefer to leave it at that. lets leave it at that for hexen2 as well ok.. lets talk about quake 2 folks quake 2 please. don't /msg me freaks We ARE talking bout quake2... NO MSGING him quake2 from an outsiders perspective was amazing dis: anyway the guys at mecca said that unreal kicks the ass compared to quake2......they were complaining about the lack of AI outsider's perspective? my top two games seen at e3 (not including prey) was quake2 and sin Escher: Duh... disruptor - after seeing the competition are you guys ready to go back to work with any new ideas? was not impressed with the weapons in quake2, lighting was ok, but man they have the shit going for them right now Escher: The monsters were dumb as bricks in the Q2 demo... They were literally hacked in in the last 48 hours man unreal has been in development forever and quake is still in the alpha stage yes we know that Ritalin: Not really. We're going to keep going with our original vision and finish working on the game so don't compare Dis: Are you on the Q2-team? no AI was seen in the q2 demo as disruptor mentioned, but no one cared, they just wanted to see the monsters beat on them a bit cain:quake is still in alpha stage?hhhmmmmm... Redd: duh what make me angry is that they not understand it quake 2 heh hmm :) It's too funny seeing some of the questions being asked. Disruptor I gotta ask Dis: How will the slope-effect be in Quake2? In Quake, when standing in a slope, you slid down.. ? What about the sound stuff that Carmack mentioned Redd: same redd..... same slope effect, same engine dis: hook said not to dis the rapsody are you guys porting :) Redd: Well... depends on the surface attributes.. if it's a slippery surface, you'll slide alot faster is there going to be reflected sound and stuff Slip: Dunno.. will quake 2 support more then 30 meg RAM without loading himem.sys? dis..... slippery surfaces in quake 2? bout time! Dis: any other movement effects gonna be added? doh mrgibbed: It' 's a pure win32 product cool yeah dis - does Q2 graphics look anythink close to Turok's? prophet: what do you mean? Dis, will there be a grappling hook type tool included in normal q2, and will it be used in any of the puzzels ? Dark: Dunno, haven't seen much of Turok other things besides ducking... Kief: prolly not turok's a crap game. sigh Prophet: Like what? The player doing cartwheels? that would be funky turoks a crap game but the gfx rule especially if the view spun with you that would rock dis: just a question about the speed of quake2. Is it going to be fast even on a P133? and what about the 3DFX card? Someone said that quake2 will run much faster then quake, is that true? let's not talk about turok :) Shut the hell up about Turok DIS: any new screenshots for us? Escher: Yes Rialin: no Dis: How about Quake2-C, just as easy to use as Quake-C? ritalin boy i already asked that :) um i was away in Delphi trying to finish this damn QCStudio * Disruptor buys a cluepon for Redd and it doesnt wanna cooperate with me dis, What do ID think about the competition, especially in the light of e3... Kief: No sweat man What competition? Good :) redd: it uses normal c++ there is no more quake-c. dis: did Quake2 make any of the competition spooge? damnit who cares about competition So, is id really going to say that this game is better than Doom or Doom 2 gameplay wise for real? Because those two games are still my bedfellas. John: Oops, screwed that one ;) Ritalin: I'd rather not comment on that. Disruptor: Will Zoid being the unix ports again for sure or there a possiblity that someone might be? Quake 2 only PLEASE Quake 2 ONLY! :) Raven: Too soon to tell dis: there will be a quakebot as the reaper? Escher: Not planned escher if someone codes it don't forget folks that people can code it making bots is gonna be SO much easier adn better in C++ So, is id really going to say that this game is better than Doom or Doom 2 gameplay wise for real? Because those two games are still my bedfellas. (Yes I'm repeating myself) Q2 is going to be easier to hack now that we've moved to C DLL's i think if you sit still in net games you should spontaneously combust Dis: Will you sell Quake2-source-code for x-win? Slipgate: Q2 will set the standard yet again that's weird, i heard that Raven is working on his own bot.....just rumors? Dis, will there be a Q++ ? :) DIS: that's sort of up for argument.... dis - will id be providing a compiler for QuakeDLL, or will you need to buy a commercial one? Redd: uhh Dis: could u tell us a little about the weapons....what there like? disruptor, what did carmack mean when he said the conversion from quakeC to dll's wasn't finished yet Dark: No, use LCC. it's a freeware compiter Slipgate: We started the QC->C conversion a week before E3 =) ah DIS: where is that available? Quake2 will have a linux ver. right? so how is it looking right now as far as code and what for unix? Lazer: I think they are described on some webpages or something dis: Quake2 IS going to be in my stocking this christmas, isnt it? Redd: Not initially Will they Quake2 CHick have different weapons or abilities than the quake guy? ne1 know URL? Dis: Will the DLL game code be licensed in a way (i.e., GPL-style) that the source *must* be released to deter idiots from writing add-ons that will do Bad Things (tm)? guys No immediate plans for Unix if you want lcc Redd : if you act nice except rhapsody go to quake2.com/news/ Dis: Awright DAEMONIX: No idea hmmmm that is a GOOD question will ppl be able to make Quake-Viruses..... hmmmm ritalin Cain: dOh yeah but then again...... people on the net download exe's and run em every day so its no worry Will they Quake2 CHick have different weapons or abilities than the quake guy?(yes Im repeating myself...so what's yer point?!!?) are there any new enemies shown yet? adn we ALL know there are enuf assholes out there that are gonna try it Ritalin: Writing Q2 mods should have the same inherent risk as installing plugins for Netscape or activeX apps for IE. You take your chances. true .... Hell: The jury is still out on the Q2 chick :) she's hot jury still out ..... hahahah heheh, jury is still spooging :) disruptor, any shotguns? i love shotguns I hope she's in the final..with a chasecam view :) Slipgate: Yes. We had one in the Q2 demo at E3 dis: you need a chase camera so you can see here ass but i want shotguns more doom style shotguns than quake style shotguns Dis: Will there be a Quake2-ver. for rhapsody? dis cool dis: will q2 have an adjustable turn rate for the eyboard Dis: Are those animated gifs direct from the game, or are they just rendered character to demonstrate ? kam: Dunno was the shotguns like doom2 or like quake HI Redd: Yes baron... no llama questions just good questions please :) Kief: All from the game... sup dis what? no llama questions??? was the shotguns like doom2 shotguns or like quake shotguns :) * Slipgate loves shotguns. doom2's shotgun was great dis: why the option of 16 bit color standard for q2 ? death in a blow... Slipgate: Closer to Doom shotguns, but alot better why not alterego dis :any more from microsoft on open gl is there going to be a weapon like the ax ir are all weapon going to be projectile? maybe an..."over the shoulder view" exclusively when you play as the quake2 chick...hrm... well, im gonna go play some quake dis, BETTER than doom shotguns? now i'm excited anyone up for a round of HUNTED? Alter: It's actually 256 color base. The GL renderer scales up no way, can't get better than DOOM shotguns :) ahh ok cool Baron: Just wait and see man damn i'm thrilled now ohhhh im already impressed oh well.... im goin quaking ask anyone who was at E3... the shotgun in Q2 is better better than doom... this is gonna rock I gotta go change my undies................ i was at e3 i'm sitting doom2 next to mirc here and running aroudn with supershotgun in doom2 map 30, thinking "what can be better than this shotgun?" Dis, do you lot play any other games in the office, for fun, or for research ? Rock: It was weapon #3 Disruptor: What is the multiplayer interface gonna be like with Quakeworld? Kief: no time yeah looked like a cyber shotgun dis: will q2 have an adjustable turn rate for the keyboard dis - any other id people coming tonight? aspect good question COOL! dis: will the railgun go through walls or what YES!!!!!!! Aspect: Huh? but shotguns are shotguns, you know Kam: no idea disruptor have any other id guys said they will come to the quake 2 meet? that would kick ass Dark: Prolly not. They are all passed out Cain: no Slip: Hook will be here COOL! if i was playing she would um throw me off my game so to speak...8) thanks dis tell hook thanks for me :) Disruptor: I mean the multiplayer interface, whats it like? dis: will q2 have an adjustable turn rate for the keyboard (ok, one more time) Disruptor: is there going to be a weapon like the ax or are all weapon going to be projectile? * Baron is still in awe of BETTER than doom shotguns ok are you guys going to fire hook cause he doesn't work he's just always on irc sorry Aspect: Uhh, go look at the QuakeWorld interface for now. Not much has changed i was lagged Dis: I've read alot about all this puzzle stuff in Quake2, how will this affect the Multiplayer-game? Lazer: There will prolly be at least 1 melee weapon Cain: no what was the logic in the ducking....was it a thing id decided on or something that was demanded? dis - tell them to come since its Quake's 1 year being out :) IMO, both of the DooM games had much better control than in Quake...will Quake's poor keyboard control be tweaked at all in Quake2? Aha crap like brass knuckles? *winkwink* Guts: Prolly disabled in deathmatch mode I didn't think quake had that bad keyboard control Rock: Ancient chinese secret Err..much better KEYBOARD control than QUake...doh haha the doom guy had a spiked ring :) i love how the female player looks, maybe she's a way too nazi. Have we to thanx killcreek? :) I used the mouse on +mlook and wasd to strafe and back and forward doh, that doesnt help Everyone should go and learn how to play with the mouse you keyboard llamas =) escher... let's not talk about killcreek i'm spooging mouse rox :) bah i don't use joysticks. Mouse is the only way to play... (over killcreek :) ) keyboard kicks ass ill take ne mouer right now <\[moomoo]> i use the trackman marble..it rox! sensitivity 25 or over mouse is the ultimate keyboard and mouse combo's are best tho' keyboards is the best, mouse is for losers yeah disruptor..... i am a mouser too, but make sure htey make DOABLE keyboard controls how can u play with out a mouse?.....mouses are our friends raven, yeah, come on then :) sensitivity 25??? fuck , you are insane! because i used to keyboard and my friends are still keyboards. * Beavis_69 is back... heh Dis, i have to say the choice with the spered/cubed paralaxed sky looks hella better it plays well Disruptor: The picture of the female is not the real female model is it? Because I read a .plan file and it said it was just a fantasy picture one of you guys made and I'm used to it... Rock: Agreed hehe the mousers NEED the keyboard too mouse and keyboard.....best of both worlds we do... I throw the mouse off my desk when I play quake !op Aspect: We actually have her walking around in the game. But will prolly take her out raven, your a loony !nwhois Disruptor aspect..... paul steed drew that Why will you take her out ? he was sex deprived noooooooooooo thats the only chick i get to look at Oh look, it's that Zentron loser heh... No Quake2 chick?Are you insane?!!?!? :) !nshitadd Disruptor 101 heh mouse, keyboard, and 15 other PC's, best of all words disruptor: why have you made the Id Software website frames-only?? * Redd will BRB! =) disruptor: why take her out? mrGibbed, now you're talking Beavis: Because it looks better that way =) it does.. poor beavis hehe zen, i hope you unshitted disruptor yet Beavis, you really need to upgrade FROM MSIE 2.0.. but on my netscape the right hand frame scrolls far over into nothing dis, about how many polys are the new models Disruptor , i heard quake2 was the shit at e3 average zen, yup ugh... for the record... we are currently researching a wide variety of females to design a perfect one for Quake II disruptor: plan on answering my questions or should i just leave now? Slipgate , im a 50 i cant shit Disruptor: but couldn't you have a no-frames version? dis: i read that Unreal will have a "black hole" weapon......kinda odd, isn't it? ah i see don't make the check a huge steriod freak "researching" :) chick i mean Beavis: Upgrade yer browser nah Aphelion, have some respect or meat my boot. but you're gonna have a female? escher: yes Escher, I liked the black hole weapon in painKeep did anyone see Unreal at E3? Hahha...researching femals...sounds like fun... Disruptor: I can't Hell: Get out more, and you can do it yourself Yes, we are currently investigating a wide group of females keif i did meat your boot? it's too big, doesn't fit in a boot meet disruptor, i hope the final one looks "nice" germ i mean how detailed is this 'investigation'? Beavis: Sorry man... the price of progress hahahaa maybe i'm just lagged :\ Baron: very thorough Disruptor , how bout a .avi or something heheheh zen i already asked Disruptor: I bet this is harder than crap to come in here and listen to 50 different people and answer their questions at the same time. heh, what did he say ? dis: will Q2 have trap type weapons (a la bombs)? like 3drealms style...;) Zentron: Why? so you can give it to all your warez friends? :) Disruptor , i dont warez Aspect: My brain can multitask <\[moomoo]> hehe haah make the topic Disruptor is here, don't msg him i bet lol i have to pee brb dis: is Q2 a corny sequel like shadow warrior? *** Disruptor (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has left channel #quake2 *** Disruptor (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has joined channel #quake2 :) doh freaks dis Well I guess he didnt fall it welcome back Well I guess he didnt fall in <\[moomoo]> wb dis wb ids Disruptor , i own Quake full cd rom :) or dis or something went out for a smoke too Zentron: good for you ehehehe dis, you smoke? :) he smokes chronic heheh Dis, get skunk annasie to do the music for trinity or something :) Slip: Yep anyways........ Disruptor, is the music for Quake 2 done or are you still making it? Smoking is eveil * Filth smokes kick aphelion if he does another color thing like that ;) dis: have kenny g do q2's music :) hahahha that would suck shit dis, about how many polys are the new models on average Slip: Still in the works. Ask american about that i dont even have colors :> Rock: About 600 wow disruptor, someone told me once they had some demo material they wanted you to hear for q2 music Dis, you REALLY need to get the last two alive guys from Skinny Puppy to do the Q2 music. getting up there ;) no way, get KMFDM to do some techno stuff for it whoever is logging this, cut out the part between when disruptor left and came back. there are 3 guys alive from sp hmmm, skunk annasie would be good heh... or radiohead that is a disgusting part anyways :) heh *** Dis (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has joined channel #quake2 *** Signoff: Disruptor (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has left IRC [Write error to Disruptor[underworld.idsoftware.com], closing link] bah DOH! ogilvie, nivek and cevin humbug ? umm /nick Disruptor ack! *** Dis is now known as Disruptor Hirr dis - what about shooting off limbs? can you describe it alittle? yeah the shooting limbs dark you cant after that, describe the sky dark: ain't gonna be in Q2 rock you can Sounds cruel:/ Dark: It's in the death anims. You can't really its a random occurance yum Is it better than the kqp patch ? oh, damn slip NETGUY! ok ask again so that's cleared up :) dis: i think it was you that said no to this, but you really should add some sort of pushing in q2, it sucks to be stuck in a hallway with someone on your team and they wont move Damn...I was hoping aiming at different body parts on a monster would actually matter this time... heyas Dis, do you people look at the quake patches people have made ? ToooL, i think they have pushing in, not sure tho keif ya they do is there gonna be something like the beserker pack so you can go around and grab monsters flesh and rip it from them and stuff? disruptor, is there pushing items and climbing ladders etc. in quake 2 Dis:Will the weapons the player is using show up on the player.mdl this time? how much interaction with environment? geez hellscrea, blurb about that on my older news Baron: hehehehehehe lets ask even more dis, will you be able to blow up walls and stuff ? HellScream: who knows though, the product isn't finished yet (re: blowing off limbs) Slipgate:What's yer page...? hellscrea....... paul steed is thinking about classes, big gun, little gun, etc. Slip: you can push things, but can't climb ladders http://www.quakemania.com/faultline/ dis, cool Fuck me I got a teleporter that teleports right back to itself i hate ladders anyway Kief: You can blow away certain brushes, yes Eyore, not now, I have a headache there is a func_explodable disruptor? with a health spawnflag? canibalistic imp hehe starts eating dead imps Cool, but the names Keif, you've got it wrong every time you've said it heh hehhehehe Slip: yes great oh damn. i guess i get ignored... :( <\[moomoo]> it would be cool to shoot a support beam of a building and the whole thing comes down:) i before e except after c... hey disruptor@!!! one question disruptor: doesn't blowing up a brush remove it from the map and change the necessary bsp/vis data? I before e, exepect after C and in my name Baron: not planned damn. Moo: I have something like that planned for one of my space-station levels i really wanted to see some flesh get ripped off... <\[moomoo]> cool! Slip: no <\[moomoo]> wowee it doesn't change map structure? but then how can you do it? i think for dm, it would be cool to play until the whole lvl is destroyed, so when u shoot rockets, u destroy the lvl Moo: You blow away the supports holding a communication satelite and it walls out into space Dis, does this mean that removable brushes won't have the proper lighting ? what about the altered collision and visibility data falls even Dis: what r u working on right now???? like blowing up a brush that polys weren't rendered after. Keif: not true Lazer: vising a map <\[moomoo]> coolest hes working on answering your questions :> toool - hopefully that will be in Trinity heh Slipgate: The map is vised past the explodable brush because it has potential to alter visibility hey disruptor, is Q2 voxel capable? ah shahar: hell no :) you'll be releasing the qbsp source for quake 2? what are the xplosions then? and vissing goes past water also, for visibility there right? Slipgate uhh slip: I would think so. How else would people make third party maps for Q2? ack! prolly sprites its released now Hey Dis.. * Slipgate wonders if people can tell he's dabbled in QC, and in levels :) dis..... true zen oh dis, any plans for models being used for things such as chairs, small machines, statues, etc? Dis: Will there be powerups like Quad and Pentagram in Quake2 deathmatch? i mean the new quake 2 qbsp I couldn't tell, nah. Ehh Disruptor: what are the xplosions then? Lost in the flood:/ hmm *** Signoff: Disruptor (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has left IRC [Write error to Disruptor[underworld.idsoftware.com], closing link] Disruptor: is every thing going on time so far? no deltays that will push release back? *** Dis (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has joined channel #quake2 :( heh crap fucking bullshit net.connection bah repeat your self tool dis? *** Dis is now known as Disruptor Disruptor: is every thing going on time so far? no deltays that will push release back? hehaho waatapened some1's nuking you run a netstat or sumfin Tool: Everything is on track Disruptor: what are the xplosions then? shahar..... they explode Red: Not simply that i was just asking some other stuff about them shahar: what do you mean? the particles, how are they done? Way to go Dick Tracy he means are they sprites? mdls? dis - any chance of a Q2Test by october? Dis: Will there be powerups like Quad and Pentagram in Quake2 deathmatch? sup people!!! Dark: "No comment" Guts: prolly something similar anyway no pentagrams :> Satanic :> Im gonna go say hello to mr Reaper with a Quad Rl.. gotta get back to work... l8r all *** Signoff: Disruptor (Disruptor@underworld.idsoftware.com) has left IRC [w0rk]