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<Blitz]T2Q> i guess its thresh 3 to zip
<EraserX> but, was that a LANthing or so?
<EraserX> sorry, but i don't know much 'bout it
<Virtuoso> heh course they are :)
<Virtuoso> i'm off cya all
<Darin_Z> hook: heh, how's it going.
<Hook> yodel
<Baron-> Hey hook
<QwertMan> hi hook
<Blitz]T2Q> hi
<Hook> Any good questions today?
<Spam[69]> brb
<QwertMan> can i have quake2?
<Baron-> well, if you want me to bug you more about ice cream... :)
<EraserX> that's a good question
<Blitz]T2Q> will we have access to the a.i. and movement of the monsters for mods?
<Hook> QwertMan: Sure, after it's shipped and you show up at CompUSA with yer cash money. :-)
<Rotwang> Hook: How about if Quake 2 came with a Plus! desktop theme?
<Baron-> heheh
<EraserX> hook, when will quake2 be finished? :p
<LaZeR-[9]> yeah.....when do u think the demo for Q2 will be released?
<Hook> Blitz: I think so.  We're going with the DLL way of doing things.
<QwertMan> I want mine in the mail.
<PureEvil> QwertMan: that would rule man
<Darin_Z> hook: Can you describe the new weapon effects that Carmack did recently?
<Hook> EraserX: We anticipate finishing Quake2 by November.
<kamikaZeR> cool
<Hook> Darin_Z: Think "Eraser".
<kamikaZeR> will the reg and shareware vers be seperated liek q1
<Darin_Z> damnit, better go rent Eraser tonight.
<SMegsAWAY> Hey Mr. Hook, do you ever get the urge to walk into a 7-11 with only a shirt and shoes on?
<Hook> Rotwang: I'm sure one of you guys will do a Quake2 desktop theme. :-)
<kamikaZeR> and will q2 have a shareware with encypted full
<Hook> Lazer: I think the demo should be out in October or so.
<QwertMan> Can I order Quake2 in the mail like I did Quake1?
<Cain> are you thinking of putting motion blurring in Quake 2
<LaZeR-[9]> thanx 4 answer Hook
<LaZeR-[9]> :-)
<Hook> SMegsAWAY: Christ boy, that's the best question you could come up with?  To answer: only if it means the difference between having a slurpee or no slurpee.
<PureEvil> Hook: you've got to be kidding
<EraserX> darin, i am already here
<EraserX> you can rent ME
<Hook> Cain: There are no plans for motion blur.
<Hook> PureEvil: What am I supposed to be kidding about?
<PureEvil> [Hook!bwh@azathoth.idsoftware.com] that nasty genital rash finally cleared up
<PureEvil> Hook: thats nice, i really didn't want to know that
<Smeglord> lol
<PureEvil> heh ;)
<Darin_Z> EraserX: hehe, uhmm... no thanks.
<QwertMan> Hook: Can I order Quake2 in the mail like I did Quake1?
<Baron-> Hook: If i don't have a 3dfx card, will i lose alot of the quake2 coolness?
<Rotwang> Hook: I read somewhere that in Half-Life, the sfx are effected by the acoustics of the room.  Will that be in Quake 2?
<EraserX> haha
<ZenTroN> Hook, sup
<Aspect> baron come back to legacy i am and op now
<Hook> QwertMan: I'm not sure how distribution is going to be handled.  That's a question for the biz guys and Activision.
<Ace_Dave> Hook : is there still an option to shut gl_flashblend off in Quake2 ?  
<QwertMan> ok
<kamikaZeR> someone +M the chan
<kamikaZeR> and relay quesitons
<ZenTroN> heh
<Cain> Baron : you will lose it
<ZenTroN> Hook, you want the channel moderated?
<Hook> Baron: Well, the OpenGL version of Quake2 DOES have the really cool stuff in it, but the software rendered version is still pretty damn neat.  The OpenGL version gives you colored lighting and nice blending effects though.  Note that by the time we ship hopefully 3Dfx will have some competition that you guys can choose from.
<Hook> Rotwang: We're looking into cool new ways of doing sounds.  You should check John Carmack's .plan for more information on that.
<Baron-> damn... better start savin....
<Hook> ZenTroN: No need yet, I can hang with this pace. :-)
<ZenTroN> Hook, so no MMX at all?
<Darin_Z> hook: I know this isn't your department, but have you heard what kind of speed-up has been achieved with converting the .qc to DLL?
<PureEvil> as if
<ZenTroN> wouldnt that help with lighting effects?
<QwertMan> I am getting $80 for 2 weeks of EASY work
<Smeglord> hook:if i make the affore mentioned desktop theme can i have my name in the credits (prefably above carmack's)
<Hook> ZenTroN: If we use MMX it'll only be for sound, and only if sound turns out to be a huge CPU hog.  Right now there are no immediate plans for MMX support.
<QwertMan> Should cover Quake2
<Baron-> heh
<Hook> Darin_Z: The speedup is mostly on the server side (obviously), but I don't know if it's quantified.  It's enough to notice, but not enough for you to think "Oh shit, why didn't they do this a long time ago?"
<ZenTroN> Hook, no word on having more then one class yet?
<Spam[69]> back
<Spam[69]> shit!
<Spam[69]> hey hook
<Ace_Dave> Hook : any word on how many levels/episodes for Q2 ?
<LaZeR-[9]> Hook: r u guys still cnsiddering the required use of cd to play or is decision already made on it being required?
<ZenTroN> shit, i might log off brb
<Loket_MiB> Hook, Will Q2 be playble on an P133 ?
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<kamikaZeR> Hook: any new texture effects or texture based hazards?
<Baron-> DOH!
PureEvil hogties Baron- and goes to town
<Ace_Dave> bahahah
<Loket_MiB> Damn
<Smeglord> the fame was too much for him ;
Baron- fwaps PureEvil
<Cain> you scared him off
<Spam[69]> heh
<Ace_Dave> thanks D_Z, it was fun while it lasted :)
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<Rotwang> w00h00!
<Spam[69]> damnit, netscape is totaly screwed up, it locks up after a few min, guess i need to reinstall
<Baron-> HOOK!
<Spam[69]> wb
<Hook> Didn't realize I was disconnected.
<PureEvil> heh
<Baron-> heheh
<Hook> Whoops.
<Cain> don't scare him off
<Spam[69]> heh
<Ace_Dave> Hook : any word on how many levels/episodes for Q2 ?
<Darin_Z> hook: Have you guys sped up the dynamic lighting under GL, the orange flash-blend is neat...but I miss the rocket lighting up the hallways as it zooms down them.
<Baron-> well, nuff chit chat. time for questions! :)
<Ace_Dave> Darin - exactly 
<Cain> huds man get it right
<Hook> BARON!!!
<Baron-> what?
<Baron-> :)
<kamikaZeR> Hook: any new texture effects or texture based hazards?
<Cain> irc rulz look at the interaction you get
<Spam[69]> hook, how is the thing with the cd gonna work? are you gonna be able to play it from the HD but have the cd in the drive for it to start, or will it just play off the cd?
<Hook> Darin_Z: There's not much we can speed up with the dynamic lighting.  As a matter of fact, it may be a little slower because we're now using 16-bit textures, but now dynamic lighting will be colored.  Personally I never saw a huge speed difference between GL_FLASHBLEND 0 and GL_FLASHBLEND 1
<Baron-> brb. i require food. gettin some rocky road for hook too... :)
<Cain> down with piracy
<Hook> Ace_Dave: Nope, no idea on number of levels/units/episodes, whatever.  Check out Tim's interview with Redwood.
<Hook> kamikaZeR: Hmm, new texture effects.  No, nothing major that I can think of, other than the colored lighting and stuff like that.
<LaZeR-[9]> Hook: on a rough estimate how many differ monsters will be included?
<Cain> 2
<Baron-> dammit. no food. im to lazy to make anything...
<Spam[69]> order a pizza
<Hook> Spam: Don't know the exact deal with the CD protection at this point.
<Spam[69]> oh
<Baron-> good idea... 
<Cain> pizza hut has a special $8.99 one topping
<QwertMan> CD protection can be broken anyway
<Hook> Lazer: No idea.  That's Paul/Kevin/Adrian/Tim/Xian/AMerican's gig.
<Spam[69]> are there gonna be any changes in the .mdl format (i.e. can i use existing quake .mdls in quake2)
<kamikaZeR> hook: does id software mean intrinsic development software?
<LaZeR-[9]> hmmm....
PureEvil gets a gang together to join him in a LaZeR-[9] beating
<Baron-> yeah! pizza hut!!!
<QwertMan> Id means Is
<Baron-> will someone shut pe up
<QwertMan> Id means Id
<PureEvil> Baron-: sure why not
<Hook> kamikazer: Actually, I'm not positive what id software means, but I'm pretty sure it has something to with the Freud's analysis of the human psyche (id, ego, superego, etc.)
<Spam[69]> pizza hut sucks!
<PureEvil> Spam[69]: you read my mind
<Blitz]T2Q> how is id pronounced?
<DarK-OnE-> woohoo
<Cain> i worked at pizza hut for 3 days
<Blitz]T2Q> like freud?
<Blitz]T2Q> or like I.D.
<Baron-> !talk 0
<LaZeR-[9]> what'd i do?
<Baron-> or something...
<Hook> Spam: Don't know if the MDL format has been changed.  I'm sure someone out in the Quake community will write a converter if necessary though.
<QwertMan> My sister told me it was Id. She is a phycologyst or whatever
<Hook> Blitz: How is "id" pronounced?  Like "id"!  Sheesh...
<Spam[69]> yeah
<Baron-> heheh
<Marlboro2> mornin
<Marlboro2> err Afternoon
<Baron-> more power 2 ya hook
<Blitz]T2Q> I hear people pronounce it I.D. all the time
<EraserX> let's stay on the Quake2...
<Cain> flood him with questions not how to pronounce id
<QwertMan> Id is the part that of your mind does what it wants
<kamikaZeR> heheh
<kamikaZeR> eye-dee
<MoebiusDR> Hook - If QuakeWorld is going to be the basis for the multiplayer architecture of Quake 2, does that rule out running listen servers?
<Baron-> mwahahahahahahahaha
<kamikaZeR> gotta go 
<Blitz]T2Q> i am familiar with id and freud
<kamikaZeR> blsarg
<PureEvil> bwahaha
<PureEvil> later kamikaZeR
<ZenTroN> !op
<Hook> MoebiusDR: QuakeWorld isn't really going to be the _basis_, it's more like a palette of techniques we're going to draw from to opimize Quake2.
<Hook> Moebius: I'm not sure how it's going to affect listen servers.
<Spam[69]> i wondered that too, listen servers suck for actual games... but its real useful for testing mods and such
<EraserX> hook what exactly do you do at ID, i know you program, but what exactly?
<PureEvil> as if
<MoebiusDR> Hook - Just that with the QW architecture you need to run a dedicated server, whereas listen servers are useful for LAN games and all
<Cain> hook: how many players do you think will be max in a multiplayer game
<Spam[69]> hook, have you decided if modem support is gonna be added?
<Marlboro2> Hook: I just got done with my first c++ book,  What book should I go to to learn 3D rendering?
<Cain> he's gone you scared him off again
<Hook> EraserX: I work on tools, hardware acceleration support, and general 3D graphics stuff.
<Cain> now he's got an alias +Hook
<Blitz]T2Q> what will be the minimum bandwith of the T1 for the server to run the game. I know that Quakeworld requires a 256k minimun , will it be the same for Quake2?
<PureEvil> no way man
<Cain> so you don't know who he is
<USteppin> Hook+
<Hook> Cain: I don't know what the max number of players is going to be in a game.
<Hook> Blitz: Don't know what the line bandwidth requirements will be.
<Hook> There will be no modem-modem support in Quake2.
<Spam[69]> ack! no modem support?
<ZenTroN> Hook, you have a T1 to your house?
<Spam[69]> damnit damnit damnit
<Cain> boooooooooo
<Hook> ZenTroN: No, I just have ISDN to my house.  American and Carmack have a T1.
<QwertMan> hook: Are you going to have the registered encrypted on the shareware cd again, or are you afriad of another Cd-crack?
<Radar2> Spam: Why play modem/modem, when there's th internet!
<Baron-> heheheh, HOOK YOU MUST ATTACK THE QUESTIONS! THEY ARE YOUR ENEMY! BEAT THEM DOWN! :)
<ZenTroN> heh, a T1 to there house
<Hook> QwertMan: I'm pretty sure there will be no shareware CD again.
<EraserX> FRAG THEM!
<Radar2> Baron: heh
<ZenTroN> bastards
<Manzer> ah shit
<Q_Wolf> Zen, I have a T1 into my house also....
<EraserX> yeah, there is no shareware, only a demo
<Cain> kick thier ass
<Manzer> gonna turn off comp
<Ace_Dave> Manzer
<Hook> Marlboro2: Check out http://www.wksoftware.com/publications/3dbooks.html
<Darin_Z> hook:  People at E3 seem REALLY impressed with the Quake2 demo.  I'm leaving right now to go buy more Spooge buckets.
<Ace_Dave> bahahah
<Manzer> there was a tornado touch down spotted 15 miles west of me
<Cain> you could play a modem game through dial up networking
<MoebiusDR> Hook - Have you looked at DirectX 5.0?  Does it improve Direct3D much?
<aphelion> uh maybe i'm dumb but WHERE is E3 being held at?
<Ace_Dave> Manzer : did you see Toto?
<Radar2> eraser: will it be a playable demo, or just clips?
<Manzer> he's stuck to the car winsheild
<Marlboro2> Which of the books do you recomend?  I have looked at the list and there are MANy diffrent titles.  Which is the best acording to you?
<PureEvil> Marlboro2: you've got to be kidding
<Manzer> bye
<Hook> Darin_Z: Man, wait til you guys see what it's like in like two weeks.
<EraserX> dunno, i hope playable
<Ace_Dave> Manzer, later
<Hook> Manzer: Tornado?!  ACK!
<Cain> yes yes yes
<Ace_Dave> I'll get you my little pretties
<Hook> Marlboro2: There is no BEST title, they all have pros and cons.
<Marlboro2> ok. thanks ")
<Marlboro2> :)
<Radar2> Any word on the ferrari yet?  News from E3 has been sparce..
<EraserX> who won?
<Spam[69]> ok, heres why modem to modem support is needed:  Say you and a friend want to play a one on one game, If you play on the net, you either have to find a server on the net running the settings and the mod both of you want, plus anyone could wander in at anytime... Or you could setup your own server, but since most people have 28.8 connections the person connecting to the server would be lagged as hell, but in a modem game you could setup your own server,
<Spam[69]> radar: thresh won
<Blitz]T2Q> i have the score up on quake2.com/news
<YaXMaN> Spam: no shit
<YaXMaN> :)
<Hook> Radar2: Dunno.  I'm the only guy in the office right now, so I don't get regular updates on what's going on at E3.  Everyone will be back tomorrow, and I'm sure we'll have snazzy Web page updates.
<EraserX> yep, tresh won
<Radar2> Spam: Cool!  Was hopin' for the guy from FreeForm, but oh well!
<Baron-> snazzy... heheh
<YaXMaN> quake2 is gonna wh00p unreal's ass
<Cain> thresh is my gimp
<Ace_Dave> Hook : since the Q2 monsters are supposedly going to be 'balanced better' and will serve more as cannon fodder, are steps being taken so that the screen can be FULL of them without terrible slowdowns?
<Hook> Spam: Look, I understand why modem-modem support is nice, but it would require a lot for us to implement, and it's probably not worth it.  Is modem-modem support worth shipping a month or more later?  I'd say not.  Especially if it mean we sacrified other features and stuff.
<EraserX> hook, are you guys looking to limit the size of the packets in Quake2matches?
<Spam[69]> hook, thats totaly cool, just saying why I think its important
<Hook> EraserX: Don't know.
<MoebiusDR> Hook - Would modem-modem support perhaps be added in a later version then, after the initial release?
<Kren-MOB> *yawn* wassup, all.
<Radar2> Hook: with monsters having so much better AI and being harder to kill, will there be enough ammo around levels to take them out?
<Cain> spam69 write a program to put a password on a net game then problem solved
<Baron-> cain: YOU can write that program too. :)
<Blitz]T2Q> quakworld is passworded
<Radar2> Cain: yeah, just like that! :)
<Hook> Ace_Dave: I don't think they're going to be QUITE like cannon fodder, not in the DOOM sense.  But we're trying to make some of the monsters a little easier to kill, that's for sure, and since machines are faster, hopefully make them a little smarter and more challenging to kill, not just tougher/easier in terms of raw damage.
<Cain> ok
<Cain> give me a minute
<Hook> Radar2: I think ammo is going to be least of your problems, unless you use the chaingun like a hose.
<Baron-> ok
<ZenTroN> ignore that
<Hook> MoebiusDR: Right now the plan is to get working on Trinity right after Quake2 ships instead of doing incremental mods to Quake2.
<Spam[69]> OC there is a way to do a modem game if you have MS PLus, you can setup a dialup server and set it up to use IPX, when the other dude dials in, you have a dialup IPX network, from which you can play any game that uses ipx
<LaZeR-[9]> Hook: r u guys trying to release this before Hexen 2 is release?
<LaZeR-[9]> going to try
<ZenTroN> Hook , when ya think Trinity will be out in '98 or '99?
<LaZeR-[9]> i mean
<ZenTroN> LaZeR-[9] , Quake2 will be out after Unreal
<Kren-MOB> Spam:  If you don't have MSPLus you can do the same if you have Win95B (OSR2) or download the Microsoft ISDN Accelerator Pack 1.1 from the MS site.
<YaXMaN> Hook: since Quake2 relies on somewhat established technology, there wasnt a 'qtest2'... can we expect to see a trinity 'test'
<ZenTroN> and Unreal will be out months after Hexen2
<Ace_Dave> Hook : (monsters) make them FAST :)  Reeeeeaaal fast.  Faster than the player - then people will be challenged at single play.
<Spam[69]> oh really? cool
<EraserX> hexen2, isn't that something for ver soon?
<Hook> LaZer: We're aiming for a Christmas release.  We're not trying to time this relative to other titles.
<Hook> ZenTron: Trinity will probably be a 1999 title.
<Baron-> well, gives me plenty of time to get that damn 3dfx card. :)
<MoebiusDR> re tb
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<Kren-MOB> Spam: The ISDN Pack adds a LOT to WIN95.  You need it.  trust me.
<The_Brain> hey hey hey
<Hook> YaXMaN: I would imagine we'll do a trinity test, especially if we're using radical new technology.
<Kn1ght> hook : does quake2 support MMX?
<ZenTroN> Hook , will trinity be more rounded and have spheres and curves and stuff?
<Spam[69]> i remeber the first time i saw qtest... i was fuckin blown away
<ZenTroN> Kn1ght , maybe on sound but it wont have any graphicaly effect
<Ace_Dave> Spam - you said it.
<Ace_Dave> ah, the memories :)
<Hook> ZenTron: Trinity will probably have lots of curved surfaces and stuff like that.
<YaXMaN> Spam: no shit... unlike anything id ever seen or thought possible.. it was 'beautiful'
<ZenTroN> Hook , cool, cuz quake is like blocky
<Slipgate> hey folks
<Radar2> Damn ISP, always disconnecting me!  At least I wasn't playing Quake at the time! :)
<Spam[69]> hey slip
<Slipgate> spam, how goes the #quake2 yearbook?
<Slipgate> oh
<Slipgate> Hook is here!
<Baron-> SLIP!
<Kren-MOB> Hook:  Any chance of reflected light or sound?  Or widespread use of mirrored/reflective surfaces like the single texture in GLQuake?
<Spam[69]> good, i need to add a few new profiles
<Slipgate> BARON!
<Slipgate> :)
<Baron-> what?
<Baron-> :)
<MoebiusDR> Hook - What color will your Ferrari be after Q2 ships?
<Radar2> Hey slip..
<Ryouga> lol moeb
<PureEvil> heh heh
<Slipgate> Hook, have you worked at all on the sound engine?
<YaXMaN> heheh
<Slipgate> Or you can't do anything with Carmack away?
<Hook> Kren: Reflected sound is something that John Carmack is looking at right now.  I don't think we're going to have mirrors though, but I'll check on that.
<Hook> Slip: I don't work on the sound code at all.
<Slipgate> !op
<Baron-> hook: are you gonna be here for the quake 2 chat thing on tuesday?
<Slipgate> Hook, sounds great
<Hook> Slip: I'm just ramping up, so it's hard for me to work on anything but tools while John is away.
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<Baron-> heheheeheehehehhehheheheheheheehh
<Kn1ght> hook : is Carmack thinking of working on doppler effect?
<PureEvil> hah
<Ryouga> hello hook =)
<Slipgate> well, hope those tools rock :)
<Smeglord> hook:Will you rewrite th gL for Q1 as you did for q2?
<Nigel> Er, Hook? What do you do at ID?
<Ace_Dave> Hook : are shadows 'REAL' now, or still just hacked in?  (ever watched the grenade's shadow??)
<Radar2> baron: what's the chat thing?
<Hook> Baron: I don't know.  If I can I will, but I figure I'm on here enough that if I'm not here Tuesday you guys won't hate me.
<Slipgate> nigel, he's a programmer
<Baron-> radar: the chat thing. on tuesday
<Hook> smeglord: What do you mean "rewrite the gl"?
<ZenTroN> he does the 3d
<ZenTroN> etc.
<Smeglord> optimize
<Hook> Ace_Dave: I don't know if the shadows have changed.
<Baron-> hey process, whats the word on quakecon?
<Kren-MOB> Hook: If anyone looks into mirrors, please mention that viewing a mirrored texture as a reflection in yet *another* mirrored texture is broken:  You look right out the level.
<Hook> knight: A doppler effect is something we'd like.
<Cain> i need to work at id so i can have a ferrari
<Radar2> baron: yeah, I got that part!  Is it a special one, as opposed to Mondays?
<Blitz]T2Q> does quake2 use assembly?
<Marlboro2> Hook:  wOuldn't it be nice to just sit back and have fun talking instead of being flooded by questions?  
<The_Brain> !nwhois nigel
<Slipgate> so there IS reflected light off walls in quake 2?
LaZeR-[9] is going to JB's to scarff some food.......CYAL8R!!!
<Spam[69]> blitz, it would have to
<Hook> Cain: if you want to work at id just for the Ferrari, you're in it for the wrong reason.  But then, I've ranted about this before....
<Slipgate> so would a blueish texture with red light reflecting off it look purplish?
<Baron-> radar, it's supposed to be to disscuss e3 happinings and were tryin to get a bunch of id guys here
<Cain> ok
<Slipgate> Hook..... don't worry its not just for the ferrari :)
<The_Brain> !nuseradd *!*zNigel@*.ICDC.COM 100 Nigel
<Cain> i want some money
<Cain> too
<Kn1ght> hook : does that mean that doppler effect is just an idea or is it something that's being worked on?
<Ace_Dave> I'd PAY to work there :)
<The_Brain> !useradd *!*zNigel@*.ICDC.COM 100 Nigel
<Radar2> baron: okay.  I'll be there (here?)
<Smeglord> hook: wanna come over to my house?
<YaXMaN> slipgate: hanent ya seen the screen shot of that?
<The_Brain> !useradd *!*zNigel@*.ICDC.COM 100
<The_Brain> !whois *.ICDC.COM
<GoNINzo> ryo: greets...
<Baron-> yeah, it's here. 8pm EDT
<Ryoga`> hello gonin
<The_Brain> !nuserdel *!*zNigel@*.TS3.ICDC.COM 
<Hook> Slip: Let me think about that.  Hmmm, if you had a blue texture, a red light was going, yes, it would likely end up looking a little purplish, or maybe even blackish.  Depends on whether we're adding or modulating the color.  I think John is going with adding right now.
<Kren-MOB> Heh, I'd kill just to intern at ID for free so I could learn programming with advanced 3d engines...
<The_Brain> !userdel *!*zNigel@*.TS3.ICDC.COM 
<Hook> Knight: Doppler is an idea.  We have a pretty good idea how it would work, but haven't wirtten any code for it.
<The_Brain> !useradd *!*zNigel@*.ICDC.COM 100
<Slipgate> Hook, slightly off question
<Baron-> heh
<GoNINzo> kren : but because the low number of id devel's, you'd prolly end up working for a different company
<Slipgate> can you come to this channel next tuesday at 8 pm edt?
<The_Brain> !die
<Marlboro2> I would pay you guys to let me intern
<Slipgate> and bring some other id guys with you?
<Spam[69]> hell, I'd pay id if they'd let me do anything, even be a janitor there, hell, I
<Cain> me too
<Spam[69]> I'd lick the floor to clean it
<Radar2> Janitor Spam?! :)
<Spam[69]> heh
<Spam[69]> brb
<Radar2> Think Bob would get upset!
<Hook> Slip: If I remember I will come by on Tuesday.  Right now I just show up whenever I have spare time, usually right before going home.
<The_Brain> PureEvil !die
<Kren-MOB> Marlboro2: Heh.  :)  GoNINzo:  Yeah, that would be a pretty good reason for ID to not accept interns.  
<Slipgate> Hook, I was planning on sending invitations
<Slipgate> to the different id guys
<Slipgate> via e-mail
<Slipgate> would sending you one help you remember etc.? :)
<Hook> Slip: Send out the invites, that's probably a good idea.  I'm sure Disruptor and Tokay would hop on, and maybe Cash.
<Hook> Slip: Only if you sent it at 7:55 :-)
<Slipgate> yeah.... i'll invite carmack just so he knows we want him, even tho he won't come :)
<Slipgate> willdo Hook :)
<ZenTroN> Hook, why doesnt Carmack IRC?
<Baron-> heh
<Kren-MOB> Tokay's on ICQ right now for those that have it, but he's set away...
<Hook> Slip: I wouldn't even bother sending it to him.
<Hook> ZenTroN: Because A.) he doesn't type fast and B.) he's busy coding.
<Slipgate> yeah your prolly right
<[TRAXX]> kren- whats his ICQ #?
<Slipgate> so this is kinda funky tho: it would be a black wall?
<Ace_Dave> doesn't type fast?  amazing :)
<Radar2> 184833
<Marlboro2> hehe The lead programer doesn't type fast :)
<Slipgate> if that's what is gonna happen, why not use color modulation? :)
<[TRAXX]> thanx...
<Kren-MOB> Uhhh... I don't think I can give that out.  I could wind up on his shit list.  If you find it, search for it.
<W3|rd0> hm
<Slipgate> guys, the id guys on icq can be found via name
<Kren-MOB> Radar2:  You did it, not me :)
<Hook> Slipgate: It depends on how Carmack wants to do stuff.  If he DOES us modulation it will turn to black: blue materials under a red light would be black.  If he goes with an additive thing, then it would turn brigh purple instead.
<Slipgate> just search for them
<YaXMaN> Carmack cant spell... is that just a joke, or is he dyslexic or somethin??
<Ryoga`> hook : what is your record for sustained taco bell only eating?
<[TRAXX]> i know, im just too lazy to look ;)
<Radar2> I just did a search.  Not like it's real private!
<Slipgate> hook, uhh, let's use addition :)
<Hook> doesn't type fast compared to ME. :-)
<Radar2> They can always just block new users...
<Marlboro2> hehe
<Slipgate> i want that purple :)
<Baron-> heehehehehehheheh
<Kren-MOB> Slip: Yeah, but I don't want to be the one who publicly handed out their numbers.  ICQ can be a little maddening when you have half the world trying to talk to you.  I only have 25 contacts and it's driving my batty.
<Marlboro2> HOOK WILL TAKE ID OVER :)
<Ryoga`> are you on a dvoriak keyboard?
<Slipgate> kren i know
<Slipgate> i'm just making them work
<Kren-MOB> Dvorak rules.  Wish I could type on mine yet :)
<Hook> Marlboro2: Shyeah, right, not interested.
<Slipgate> if you want to talk to id, do it your own damn self, that sorta thing
<Marlboro2> :)
<Hook> Ryoga: God no, I use a regular QWERTY (MS Natural).
<Ryoga`> cool hook =-)
<Nigel> Hi everybody!
<Slipgate> So, is the playing in Quake 2 like classes?  You pick between male and female?
<[TRAXX]> "
<PRED-o-MA> love the new animations on ids page
<Hook> Ryoga: Sustained Taco Hell eating?  Don't know, but I used to work there back when I was younger...*shudder*
<Ryoga`> hook : i know your going to shake you Glass Rod of Death (tm) on me for this one, but will trinity have fully dynamic lighting?
<Slipgate> or can you switch at any point?
<Ritalin_B> hey hook
<Baron-> oh god. the guy who took my nick is in #maltachat
<Hook> Slip: The female character is only relevant for deathmatch, but we're still deciding how we want to handle that.
<PRED-o-MA> that dude with multi-weapons rocks
<Marlboro2> Real orbiting sun would be cool
<Baron-> what is the world comming to..
<Slipgate> wait,
<Slipgate> you mean no female in single player?
<Hook> Ryoga: No clue.  Trinity isn't even started on, so we don't know what it's going to do.
<Smeglord> hook:lightning is an absolute MUST HAVE
<Slipgate> i was interested in how people coming into servers would do that, like a "pick male or female now"
<Marlboro2> preset
<Marlboro2> like color
<Cain> hook:how did you get your job at id
<Ace_Dave> Hook : that sky backdrop - is it mountains and sky separate (with sky animating?) or is it non-animating, like Doom?
<Hook> Slip: There probably won't be a female in single player because you never see yourself, so choice of gender is largely irrelevant.
<Ritalin_B> HERE is a question: you guys know what book the lightning gun is from???? Id hasnt confirmed it but i have proof of my conclusion
<PRED-o-MA> hook: Are there animated skins ?
<Smeglord> slip: in multiplayer setup
<Ryoga`> i spotlight moving over the floor hook? doesn't that idea make you spooge!
<Kren-MOB> Slip: I was hoping that the server would be able to access SETINFO variables for the client and determine your preference from that, much like you set your color.
<YaXMaN> Slipgate: gee, i would think you would just pick a skin and go w/ it
<Marlboro2> chasecam would let you see her ass which is a big +
<Slipgate> well now
<Slipgate> keep in mind
<W3|rd0> I HAVE NATS PICTURE!!!
<Hook> Cain: I got my job by being a bad ass programmer.  Being personal friends with Carmack and Abrash didn't hurt either. :-)
<Slipgate> maybe it's just irrelevant
<Slipgate> and maybe their are physical differences
<Cain> cool
<Slipgate> in ability
<Hook> Ace_Dave: I believe it's non-animating.
<Slipgate> between female adn male
<Blitz]T2Q> will there be any difference in movement or anything depending on whether you choose a male or female model?
<Ace_Dave> ooooh, chasecam
<Slipgate> like, female more agile but male more strong or stuff
<Hook> Ryoga: Spotlights?  Feh, that's easy.  Just no fun for game play.
<Blitz]T2Q> exeactly
<PRED-o-MA> HOOK: Are there animated skins ?
<Smeglord> hok: no fun?????
<Ryoga`> can you please make the female model more like the girl in 5th element ;)
<Smeglord> hook: that is atmosphere!!!!!
<Radar2> baron: the guy using my name is in #battlecity and #herbal_oasis, and turns out to be a bot!
<GoNINzo> hook : you know if you're going to use the same networking protocol's as quake?  IE, will all games using the quake II engine be able to use qspy on it?
<Baron-> heheh... 
<Kren-MOB> Pred:  You can do animated skins in QUake with QuakeC that rotates skins.  You should be able to accomplish the same in something like QUake2 
<Kn1ght> hook : is crackwhore the only female model or are you guys working on more?
<Hook> Slip: Don't know.  Once again folks, the female/male thing is largely experimental and we haven't made any decisions as to how that's going to work.
<PRED8OR> cool
<Hook> PRE-o-MA: I haven't heard about animated skins.
<Slipgate> hmmmmm........
<GoNINzo> pre: like get an animated skin like the ceiling on start...
<YaXMaN> Hook: how do feel about the elimination of satanic/demonic themes from quake2?
<PRED8OR> different expressions on models
<Ryoga`> hook : do computer programmers get chicks?
<ROQ_Marx> Hello Hook. Do you know when the new q2 scrrenshots will be released at your website?
<Slipgate> i guess the best way to go is no diff. between female and male, but a difference at least in death sounds and motion a little bit would be nice.
<Slipgate> wb lagos
<Q_Wolf> No, programmers make $$$ which gets chicks
<Radar2> yax: yeah, that one took me by suprise.  I expected it, but still...
<Hook> GUYS!  LISTEN TO ME!  The male/female thing is preliminary.  NO data is available for it other than "we're looking into it".  I don't know if there are other models, if she's gonna have big or small tits, if she's gonna look like Demi Moore or Milla Jovovich, if she'll have different characteristics, if she'll have different animations, etc. etc.  WE DON'T KNOW YET.  Sheesh!
<Baron-> heheheh. calm down hook
<YaXMaN> hahaha
<Blitz]T2Q> ahhaha
<Kren-MOB> Whoops, we're pissing him off with the female thing.  Better shut up or maybe we should go moderated, hm? :)
<Ryoga`> hook : they're just bent on a female model, let them suffer
<Smeglord> LOL
<Hook> Ryoga: Yes, us computer nerds get the occasional female interested in us.  Actually, most of the folks here are either married, engaged, or have long-term girlfriends.  I just moved here, so I'm single, and same for Xian, but basically everyone else has a nice and happy home life.
<Radar2> And you wonder why Caramack doesn't IRC?! :)
<Baron-> just take deep, calm breaths and count to ten slowly...
<Hook> ROQ_Marx: I imagine new shots will go up early next week.
<Ryoga`> =-)
<Smeglord> hook: if i set  you up w/ a girl can i be in the credits?
<Hook> YaZMan: The satanic stuff was cool, but it was getting pretty old.  I mean, it was in DOOM and Quake both, so, you know, time for something new.
<[TRAXX]> Quake2 = b00bs
<Kren-MOB> 1....2....3....4...DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!! :)
<GoNINzo> hook : you guys decided anything on the network protocol?  after all, that's what made quake so great... (sorry if i'm laged)
<Baron-> heheh
<Ritalin_B> GUYS ! if you want a female model so bad, make yer own
<Hook> Smeglord: Like I'd want a girl YOU'D set me up with...:-)
<Smeglord> Hook: if you take tout he satanic stuff what on earth will they put ya'll on cnn for?
<Baron-> heheh
<Cain> Hook:what will we be seeing in 2 weeks that's so kewl?
<Ryoga`> hook : this is true, smeg would find you something hairry and boat-like
<Kren-MOB> Yup. Make a female model and a multi-model patch.  Viola'! Female players.  Shuddup.
<Hook> GoNINzo: Don't know anything about the net protocols yet.
<Marlboro2> Another programing question.  What is a good book to read on makin networked gameplay?  
<Smeglord> ;)
<Baron-> brb
<Slipgate> hmm..... i've wonderd, is carmack married or not?
<Hook> Cain: Nothing in particular, but all the pieces are coming together, and in a few weeks hopefully enough to really show some awesome screen shots and stuff.
<Hook> Smeglord: They'd put us on CNN for making the coolest fucking game on Planet Earth.
<Slipgate> cool :)
<Ace_Dave> amen
<Ryoga`> hook : i'd just like to express a vote of confidence for the satanic stuff
<[TRAXX]> heh
<Kren-MOB> A-men.
<Kren-MOB> Crap, 
<Smeglord> hook: they don't respect that...only if you"force satanic ideals on people"
<Hook> Marlboro2: Unfortunately, good books on network game play don't seem to exist.  Look on the net for papers on DIS, dead-reckoning, and wide area networking for simulations.
<GoNINzo> hook: any word on NIN helping out again?
<Marlboro2> ok thanks again
<Kren-MOB> The statanic stuff doesn't bother me, nor does it excite me.  I can't stand the lamers who whine about it being in there.  With it out, maybe they'll all shut up now.
<GoNINzo> or even just vrenna?
<Smeglord> hook: have you ever seen Carmack naked?
<YaXMaN> Hook: any plans for FOG effects?? a few of the guys from E3 have said they saw it in daikatana but not quake2??
<Smeglord> ;)
<Hook> GoNINzo: Trent and NIN will likely not be involved with Q2.
<GoNINzo> damnit..
<GoNINzo> heh
<Kren-MOB> goNINzo: Rumor I heard was Trent was busy with soundtrack for The Crow III
<Marlboro2> Get NoDoubt to help :)  Now THAT would be fuuny :)
<Ryoga`> yes fog would be awesome!! and GL lends itself to that right?
<Hook> YaXMan: We're thinking about fog effects right now.
<Smeglord> hexen fog was great
<Radar2> Smeg: what kinda question is that?!
<leadZERO> hook: what about conversion utilities? will any be included?
<GoNINzo> now i have something to bitch why quake is better than Q2 already. `8r)
<Baron-> heheh
<Slipgate> fog...... would be cool
<Hook> But we don't have specifics yet.
<salem> Fog would suck.  Fog makes everything look crappy.  Why would you want something that makes everything look crappy?
<Kren-MOB> Hm.  Fog that dissipates light would be cool.
<Smeglord> LIGHTNING IS very important
<Cain> hook:one of the guys from ID sayed that in a week we'd be seeing some pictures with weapons effects
<ROQ_Marx> Hook: will it be in-game pics this time? like with the weapons and all
<Ryoga`> fog would be beyond cool, it would be pant wetting sp00gerific
<GoNINzo> i'd be happy if Trent just finished another album already. heh
<Kren-MOB> salem: You're lost.
<Ryoga`> lightning! yeaaaaaah
<GoNINzo> sp00gerific?
<Smeglord> hook: I can't specify enough the need for good lightning
<Hook> leadZero: Conversion utilities will hopefully be done by the Quake community.  We rely on you guys a lot, you know.
<leadZERO> k
<Slipgate> Hook, don't worry, we'll do our jobs :)
<DEAD_M> Hook: If you use fog, PLEASE don't overuse it like they do in so many N64 games.
<GoNINzo> hook: ie, skins and patches galore? *grin*
<leadZERO> hehe
<Ryoga`> enviromental effects are so lacking in quake, i want environmental crap!!!!
<Cain> fog would suck look at Tukon
<Hook> Cain: That was probably me saying that.
<Slipgate> Just you need to do yours and make a really cool really editable game
<Tritian> ahh... it's h00k.
<salem> exactly, look at Turok.
<Radar2> Hook: how easy will it be to convert the existing mods and patches to Quake 2?  Should they even bother?
<GoNINzo> quake with rain.. hrm.. that'd be cool
<Baron-> sup tri
<Baron-> t
<Cain> hook:waz it TRUE?
<Tritian> yo baron
<leadZERO> gonin: that would.....
<Ryoga`> quake with birds chirping (like was so cool in PK)
<Ace_Dave> GoNINzo - it's already been done..
<Hook> Radar2: Probably not trivial, but probably possible.
<DEAD_M> Hook: Like for isntance in Turok for the N64, the fog effects are way too much.
<Smeglord> hook: will q2 be better for outdoor scenes q1 kinda sucked for that..
<Hook> Cain: I'd LIKE to see new screen shots up next week, but that's not my decision.
<[TRAXX]> load that desintegrator gun, *KAPOW* bye bye birdie...
<leadZERO> hehe
<Slipgate> q1 couldn't deal with outdoors.
<GoNINzo> hook: how good are the monsters at dodging rockets? this devopment worries me
<Slipgate> hahahha :)
<Radar2> traxx: would you get a frag for that?! :)
<DEAD_M> Hook: Is is true the music for Q2 will be heavy metalish?
<Baron-> heheheheheh
<Tritian> !info
<Smeglord> hook: maybe some trees?
<[TRAXX]> hehehe good point
<Slipgate> goninzo, we'll be able to shoot em don't worry
<Ryoga`> yeah, q1 outdoors looked bad, better in GL but still lacking
<Marlboro2> Techno would be awsome]
<Ace_Dave> Whaleboy made a rain patch, that we're modifying and using for the Zerst”rer conversion
<Hook> Smeglord: outdoor scenes will look better.
<Kren-MOB> DEAD_M: Yeah, but someone else's overuse shouldn't be the criteria for taking to totally out of Quake2.  Having outdoor areas in sections of QUake2 that had mist of fog to add to the theme would be excellent.  Being able to limit to certain areas like the base of a waterall would be great.
<Marlboro2> Get Daft Punk to do a track
<MacKiller> hell with that
<MacKiller> Metal it
<DEAD_M> Paul Steed said on QuakeCast the music was going to be metal stuff, I'm just wondering if that is still the plan.
<Slipgate> kren, amen
<[TRAXX]> if you did, some llama would go around, fraggin trees, rocks, birds, and anything else that counts ;)
<Kren-MOB> Slip: Heh, thanks :)
<[TRAXX]> durin DM of course
<Hook> DEAD_M: You'll have to talk to Tokay about music stuff.
<leadZERO> hook: is the color pallete the same?
<Radar2> trax: of course!
<DEAD_M> Kren-MOB: Agreed, Look at what I said though "don't overuse it".
<Hook> GoNINzo: The monster AI isn't complete, but they should make things challenging with their dodging abilities.
<DEAD_M> Hook: Okay :-)
<Hook> Trees are not likely.
<Cain> hook:do you think I should get Cryix P200 or AMD K6-200 with a Monster 3D?
<Radar2> id should talk to the people that did Methods of Distruction for the soundtrack...
<Ace_Dave> already done as well :)
<Hook> leadZero: I don't know if the palette has changed.
<Slipgate> AMD cain
<Slipgate> AMD
<GoNINzo> hook: didn't think it was done yet, as they havn't been shooting back at E3.
<Baron-> hook: is the main end boss guy going to be another tree?
<MoebiusDR> Hook - From what I've heard the game is alot more colorful than Quake was.  Is there still one master palette for the whole game?  Or is it done perhaps by episode or level?
<Tritian> !help 
<Smeglord> hook: I think everone should take a good look at hexen....the outdoor effects were awesom
<[TRAXX]> tweeeeeeEEEEEEeeeeettt tweeeet *SPLAT* tweeeeeee.....
<Hook> Cain: You shouldu probably get an Intel processor.  Those other processors have crappy floating point performance from what I hear.
<Tritian> pureevil !help 
<Blitz]T2Q> Hook:will compiling levels be any more time consuming then it is now ?
<DEAD_M> Kren-MOB: fog/rain etc etc is fine with me if it is not overused :-)
<DEAD_M> Radar2: I read somewhere that is who they are talking to.
<Ace_Dave> Hook : how will custom textures be used, since textures are not packed in the .bsp anymore ?
<Radar2> dead: that would be cool!  I have the CD, and love to play with it in!
<DEAD_M> Then again the N64 overuses fog I think to avoid major popup :-)
<Hook> Blitz: Yes, level compiles will probably be a little worse.  Actually, maybe not.  They take a bit longer here mostly because we have much larger and complicated levels now.
<Jizzy> Hey Hook COMPILE THIS!
<Tritian> !kick jizzy
<DEAD_M> Radar2: agreed
<Slipgate> Jizzy?
<GoNINzo> hook: Are you really "All that?" `8r) (jk, id rules)
<Coaxial> heh eh
<leadZERO> hook: will the sound be encoded in Dolby?
<Hook> GoNINzo: Yes, I am. :-)
<Smeglord> hook: If a train leaves CHicago at 3:30 and another train leaves New York at 4:30 how long will it take for them to collide?
<[TRAXX]> lead: good question ;)
<Kren-MOB> Hook: A-men.  AMD FPU performance falls flat on its face.  My company did benchmarks on them for its own products which do realtime automation of radio stations and 48khz audio from hard drive.
<Isolation> erm
<Slipgate> Hook, something that isn't said enough to you: Thank you for visiting us SIX times :)
<Hook> leadZERO: No plans for surround encoding.
<Isolation> That COMPILE THIS is in his script
<Isolation> hehe
GoNINzo hands out chips for everyone
<Jizzy> Hey Isolation COMPILE THIS!
<Hook> Smeglord: How fast are they going?
<Cain> hook:what language are you coding in?
<Isolation> see
<Baron-> hehe
<Ryoga`> hook : any contact weapons? chainsaw,ax,fist?
<Smeglord> hook:35mph and 40mph respectively ;)
<[TRAXX]> noooooooooooo
<DEAD_M> I think Hook has allready taken his SAT/ACT's :-D
<Hook> Cain: We're using C and assembly.
<GoNINzo> hook: to back up what ryo, will there be more contact weapons for players?
<Ritalin_B> hook: what are you working on for qauke2?
<DEAD_M> Hook: When will Disruptor be back so he can upload the new screeshots? :)
GoNINzo hates quake when it turns into 'get the rocket and shoot it'
<Hook> Ryoga: I haven't seen the new contact weapons, so I don't know if we'll have any.  I hope so though.
<Blitz]T2Q> is any objective code used at all?
<Marlboro2> MAIN WEAPON!!  THa pimp SLAP! :)
<YaXMaN> Hook: is the railgun gonna be the 'weapon of choice' for quake2?
<Hook> DEAD_M: Everyone comes back tomorrow I think.
<Ryoga`> cool
<DEAD_M> Hook: Cool
<GoNINzo> woohoo.. portable railguns...
<Hook> YaXMan: Actually, we're trying to balance game play so that anything above the blaster can be "the weapon of choice" depending on what your talents are.
<salem> Dead_M: fix your colon.
<Kren-MOB> Oh, please, no 'weapons of choice'.  DM degrades into 'who can get the BIG weapon first' contests.
<Smeglord> hook: maybe ya'll should import the can of pork and beans from painkeep ;)
<Baron-> eheheheheheheh
<DEAD_M> I was thinking, its going to be cool seeing railgun effects all over the place in a 16+ player DM :)
<Hook> Okay, shut up for a second guys.  Let me explain the weapon situation to you folks as I understand it (I got debriefed by Kevin today).
<Slipgate> smeglord, while he's at it why don't they put in moonpies and alcohol? :)
<Kren-MOB> salem: Heh, high fiber diets work for that  :)
<Smeglord> hook: +mlook will remian right?
<Coaxial> In DM i wanna se severed limbs!
<GoNINzo> shh everyone
<YaXMaN> LIST UP
<DEAD_M> +m the channel for Hook
<salem> :)
<Hook> The problem a lot of folks saw with Quake was that you had the "one true weapon", i.e. the RL.  Basically if you had anything BUT the RL you were screwed, unless you had massively low ping.  This made things pretty uninteresting for a lot of people.
<ZenTroN> Hook, i heard the rail gun will just take the place of the rocket laucher in quake
<Hook> So one of the things that we're trying to do with the new weapons is make them better balanced.  For example, if someone prefers the SMG, then they should be able to compete with it on an equal level with someone of equal talent armed with the railgun.
<Hook> Now, some concrete examples.
<Hook> The chaingun is fucking DEVASTATING.  BUT, it runs through ammo VERY quicklky.  Like at 1800rpm.  That means if you use it like a hose, you're out of ammo in about 3 seconds or something like that.
<Hook> The SMG is a little underpowered, however it has low ammo consumption, and you can stick things like silencers on it (that isn't definite though).
<Hook> The railgun does phenom damage, but it has ZERO splash effect.  This means it's REAL easy to miss with it, especially if you're lagged.  And since the crosshair isn't that accurate, long range sniper shots with the railgun are still going to be a little iffy.
<Hook> This is for Quake2, yes.
<Hook> This goes the same for all the weapons that we are putting in.
<Silentb0b> Hook: Are you guys going to improve the aiming stuff? like the crosshair or if you shoot close but miss a little the ammo will still hit the person/monster
<Hook> We want a pretty good balance of effects.  There's NO reason why someone who prefers the SMG shouldn't be able to compete with someone who likes the railgun.  The advantages and disadvantages of each should roughly balance out.
<Silentb0b> oops
<Hook> Same goes for armor.
<Hook> We're going to try and make the red armor not so beefy, and we're also going to try and make the weakest armor a little stronger.  Also, it would be nice if you spawn into the world temporarily invulnerable so that you don't get immediately fragged.  We're also considering some things for anti-camping measures.
<Hook> I don't know about the aiming stuff however.
<Hook> Anyway, that's the scoop as I know it.
<Hook> Okay, everyone can talk now. :-)
<Slipgate> cool hook
<[TRAXX]> Whatsa SMG?
<Slipgate> thanks
<Smeglord> that kinda idea system is screwed...if you can't dodge the rocket launcher you shouldn't be playing...the grenade launcher and lightning gun as well as a handy quad dual shotgun are way pimp.
<GoNINzo> no splash?  for any weapon? or just most?
<\[Quatar]> anti camping? hmm
<Hook> SMG=submachinegun.
<Baron-> woah
<Tritian> hrm
<leadZERO> ah
<[TRAXX]> ah...thanx
<Hook> GoNINZo: No splash for the rail gun.
<ROQ_Marx> Hook:thnx for the briefing
<leadZERO> hook: yah thanks
<GoNINzo> hook: you worried me there for a sec.. `8r)
<Ace_Dave> Hook : will Q2 HAVE a rocket launcher?  There's one in the screenshots...
<Smeglord> hook: +mlook and rocket jumping will they still be around?
<Hook> Quatar: The anticamping, if it goes in, will be only optional.
<Baron-> i feel somewhat greater in my q2 knowledge
<Hook> Smeglord: Yes, I think so.
Silentb0b thinks "The arrival" was a stupid movie
<Coaxial> hook are there still grenades ?!?
<Kren[MOB]> The crosshair inaccuracies are due to the minimum 'resolution' of the angles that can be represented.
<NNKK> Hook, are they considering hard-codeing the graplinghook into Quake2?
<Smeglord> Kewl
<Slipgate> NNKK, no
<GoNINzo> grapple built in would uh. be crazy
<Slipgate> no grappling hook
<Hook> Smeglord: Unfortunately, a lot of people weren't happy with play balance in Quake.  It came down to "know the spawn points, hide until you have a RL and red armor", which isn't nearly as fun as having something where you can sort of come in on an equal basis immediately.
<\[Quatar]> hook: ok, I'm not saying camping is good, but it IS a strategy of playing, and I dont think its really fair to block it out
<Hook> NNKK: Don't know about grappling hook support.
<Ryoga`> i think start up invincibility is a good idea
<[TRAXX]> NO grappler at ALL? for single player, it would be cheap, of course, but for DM, it would be ideal.....
<Coaxial> besides..i love to frag campers.. gives me somten to work fer
<Hook> Actually, the crosshair inaccuracies have to do with weapon/sight parallax due to the weapons being offset now.
<Smeglord> hook: those were the llamas MY weapon of choice is the grenade launchers....you notice, they weren't the ones in #quake2 don't ya?
<GoNINzo> no doppler effects.. aw.. that would be so cool!
<NNKK> Hook: well if QuakeC will not be part of Quake2 then most popular patches will become useless and theirfore no one will buy Quake2
<Hook> Quatar: That's why anticamping would be OPTIONAL.
<Ryoga`> NNKK : that's just not true
<Slipgate> guys
<Blitz]T2Q> NNKK????
<Slipgate> about the grappler
<Slipgate> remember someone could MAKE one
<Slipgate> for quake 2
<Smeglord> I will buy Q2 even if it sucks ;)
<NNKK> they COULD
<NNKK> BUT
<NNKK> it will be much harder
<GoNINzo> SG: but being built into quake2, seeing as many patches already have it...
<Hook> NNKK: Um, there weren't patches for Quake before it came out, and Quake wasn't compatible with DOOM WADs either...
<Ryoga`> NNKK : your full of it
<Bunso> can someone here ping me?
<[TRAXX]> they would have to rewrite thier code, nnkk
<GoNINzo> SG: it would be a logical step
<Sniper01> any new info or pics
<Blitz]T2Q> people will buy Quake2 just to look at the box
<[TRAXX]> ryoga= tell me about it
<Baron-> yes
<Bunso> hook-> r u gonna make "quake guy" hold the gun more realistically in q2, like in duke3d (you see gun on right side of screen) or r u gonna do the good ol' q1 gun-out-of-belly thing?
<Ryoga`> NNKK : we hope so!!
<[TRAXX]> probably
<Baron-> nnkk your the only one 
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<McLarenF1> nnkk: what are you blabbering on about?
<MacKiller> the double barrel in quake should of been like the one in doom2
<Kren[MOB]> A lot of people are asking if all kinds of features will or won't be in Q2.  Remember:  If it isn't something that requires changes to the ENGINE, it can probably be made as a patch.  Please consider this before you bug the ID people about adding stuff.
<ZenTroN> Hook, since quake2 is actually going to have a story, wouldnt he also have a name
<Silentb0b> Hook: will there or will there not be an option to listen to CD's?
<Smeglord> hook: I think WE should be the one's that q2 should be made for....WE are the ones who spend our lives building and playing it nonstop...
<ROQ_Marx> Bunso:Its on the side
<Hook> Bunso: The gun will be offset.
<Bunso> cool :)
<Smeglord> Zen: his name will be Smeglord...I am the model ;)
<Hook> MacKiller: The double barrel in Quake2 will probably be a bit more powerful than in Quake.
<DEAD_M> There is a pic on avault of a gun being offset to the right.
<Silentb0b> hehe Smeg :)
<Coaxial> Hook, Will there still be a grenade launcher in Q2, or something like it?
<GoNINzo> Hook: on a non-Q2 note, what kinda quake do you prefer? you have any specific patch you enjoy?
<ROQ_Marx> Bunso: check http://www.algonet.se/~mt/q2hx2.jpg
<[TRAXX]> Q2 uses DLLs, Quake uses QC stuff, not compadible, users will have to create NEW ones with .DLL encoding... come on brainiac
<Sniper01> hook when an we expect new info and pics and even movies ?>????
<Hook> SilentB0B: Don't know if there will be an option to listen to CDs.  The protection thing still hasn't been finalized as far as I know.
<Cain> Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light
<Silentb0b> ahh
<leadZERO> hook: what os's will Quake2 be on?
<Hook> Coax: I don't know what other weapons are being put in.
<Cain> AVI's
<leadZERO> hook: will it have linux/unix support?
<ZenTroN> leadZERO , os/2 warp only
<Hook> leadZero: Quake2 should run on WinNT (Intel and Alpha) and Win95.  If Apple can swing it, we'll think about doing a Rhapsody version.
<Bunso> "Tell me something my son, have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light?"   -"what?"  -"That's what I ask all my prey"
<Coaxial> those grenade launchers were s00oooo usefull, I hope there is
<Bunso> doh
<Kren[MOB]> TRAXX:  Your point?  The DLLs will just be written in a different language.  People had to learn QuakeC when Quake came out.  Lots of people already know C.
<leadZERO> hook: are there gonna be any inhancements for the alpha/MMX
<McLarenF1> hook: i dont know if its just me...but movies after bosses or episodes would be really kool...will there be any in Q2?
<[TRAXX]> Kren- im telling that to jack@$$ NNKK
<GoNINzo> leadZERO: that's questionable because it's going to use API's...
<Slipgate> lots of folks know C
<Hook> leadZero: No, nothing specific for Alpha or MMX.
<Smeglord> hook: ya'll should say, "fuck you" to those mac llamas and be busy on q3!!!!
<Slipgate> and other folks can learn it enough for quake mods
<Bunso> hook-> is it true that the current quake2 version needs a Super-ninja computer?
<Hook> McLarenF1: I don't know what the plan is for cut scenes.
<[TRAXX]> smeg- exactly
<Kren[MOB]> TRAXX: Ah. Forgive. :)  
<ZenTroN> Smeglord , uhh
<Cain> Hook:who are Method of Destruction, what album's have they done
<Ritalin_B> HOOK: Well considering that a large majority of Quake servers are running on Linux or Unix, does Id have plans to find a way to port the DLLs to a Unix/Linux compatible format so that we can have Linux/Unix Quake2 serverS?
<Hook> Cain: Don't know who MoD is.
<DEAD_M> Hook: Has work begun on any bosses yet?
<[TRAXX]> Kren- its k, n/p ;)
<Ryoga`> mac users = stupid morons who deserver to suffer for buying an inferior machine
<Hook> Ritalin_B: Linux support is not a priority, but we may outsource it or something.
<leadZERO> ryoga: right on
<Ace_Dave> Cain - isn't MOD the new name for Stormtroopers of Death?
<DEAD_M> kick that guy
<[TRAXX]> big suprise there
<The_Brain> damnit
<Kren[MOB]> Wow, floodkick diesn't notice poses?
<The_Brain> makes me wanna install spam protect
<ZenTroN> i was trying to use nickc, i would of had him on the 3rd one if it worked
<Hook> alright, that's it for today.  I might back on later tonight or maybe tomorrow.
<Hook> laterness.
<Marlboro2> bye
<Blitz]T2Q> without linux support for servers the game will be stifled
<Baron-> cya hook
<DEAD_M> l8r hook, thanks
<ZenTroN> later hook
<Ryoga`> bye hook
<The_Brain> c ya hook
<[TRAXX]> cyas Hook
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